Wczoraj byłem na 18 stych urodzinach mojej koleżanki na ktorych przed impreza znalem tylko ją i 3 ludzi jeszcze z mojego LO starego <stara ekipa> no i wiecie co byly takei dwie fajne dziewczyny ktorych jeszcze nei znalem nom ale zamierzylem sobie poznac jedna dziewczynka zabrala mnei an spacer gdzies daleko i znow spiepszylem o czym z nią miałem rozmawiac jak nie o MJu co chwile jakeis wiesci od Mjówek <dziękuje wam, pozdro dla kumatych>
heheh przynajmniej dziewczyna zostala tak wyedukowana sprawa Mja ze jest etraz najlepeiej oroetujaca sie dziewczyna NIE MJówka w Świnoujściu na temat sprawy MJa :] nom bosz Mazi <skazany na pasje> .
Tak pozatym to juz załatwiłem bumboxa co by an plazy z szapanem i pofkiem lezec i slcuhac MJa :] pieewszy etap świetowania ;]
no to czekamy ;) ....
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Jackson’s Fate in Jurors’ Hands
Pop icon Michael Jackson was greeted outside court Friday by hundreds of chanting fans. The singer arrived with his parents and his famout siblings Janet, LaToya, Jermaine, Tito and Randy. They waved to the fans chants of “Michael is Innocent!”
Defense attorneys completed their closing arguments, labeling the Arvizo family liars and con artists trying to pull “the biggest con of their careers”.
"They are trying to take advantage of Michael Jackson," said impassioned defense attorney Thomas Mesereau. "They are trying to profit from Michael Jackson. They think they have pulled it off. They are just waiting for one thing - your verdict."
"What they are trying to do to Michael Jackson is so harmful, so brutal, so devastating … if you have any reasonable doubt about the double-talk, the lies, its over. You must acquit Michael Jackson," he told the 12 jurors.
Mesereau spoke about the American system of justice and said, "We have the best system in the world and ladies and gentlemen I'm begging you to honour the system. … You must acquit him."
He accused prosecutors of trying to "dirty up Michael" because they lack the evidence to prove their case.
"The witnesses are preposterous, the perjury is everywhere," Mesereau declared. "None of it works. The only thing they've had is to throw dirt all over the place and hope it sticks."
He added: "If you look in your hearts do you believe Michael Jackson is evil in that way? Is it even possible? It really is not."
Mesereau then played excerpts from a video in which Jackson denies any sexual impropriety and said that he had “never been betrayed or deceived by children.”
The defense attorney conceded that Jackson had been lax with his money and had let the wrong people into his circle. But, he said, the singer was not the “monster” the prosecution were trying to depict and that he was not guilty of any crime.
Procecution Rebuttal
Afterwards, prosecutor Ron Zonen delivered a brief rebuttal. He sought to answer the question of Jackson’s motivation for the crime asking, "Why would Mr. Jackson do it? Because he could … This child was in love with him. This child would do anything he said."
Zonen reminded jurors of the past allegations made against Jackson saying that this was necessary in order to “see the total picture”. He claimed that Jackson was “in love” with his 1993 accuser and added that the current accuser is a “clone” of the boy in that case.
After both sides rested for the last time, Judge Rodney Melville ordered the eight women and four men on the jury to begin their deliberations. He gave them a 98-page book of instructions.
The Judge told Jackson that he could stay at Neverland during the proceedings but requested that the attorneys remain within 10 minutes of the courthouse in case the jurors had any questions.
These deliberations are the final stage of an ordeal that began 14 weeks ago. During this time the jury has heard testimony from over 130 witnesses.
A verdict is expected early next week.
Jackson’s Fate in Jurors’ Hands
Pop icon Michael Jackson was greeted outside court Friday by hundreds of chanting fans. The singer arrived with his parents and his famout siblings Janet, LaToya, Jermaine, Tito and Randy. They waved to the fans chants of “Michael is Innocent!”
Defense attorneys completed their closing arguments, labeling the Arvizo family liars and con artists trying to pull “the biggest con of their careers”.
"They are trying to take advantage of Michael Jackson," said impassioned defense attorney Thomas Mesereau. "They are trying to profit from Michael Jackson. They think they have pulled it off. They are just waiting for one thing - your verdict."
"What they are trying to do to Michael Jackson is so harmful, so brutal, so devastating … if you have any reasonable doubt about the double-talk, the lies, its over. You must acquit Michael Jackson," he told the 12 jurors.
Mesereau spoke about the American system of justice and said, "We have the best system in the world and ladies and gentlemen I'm begging you to honour the system. … You must acquit him."
He accused prosecutors of trying to "dirty up Michael" because they lack the evidence to prove their case.
"The witnesses are preposterous, the perjury is everywhere," Mesereau declared. "None of it works. The only thing they've had is to throw dirt all over the place and hope it sticks."
He added: "If you look in your hearts do you believe Michael Jackson is evil in that way? Is it even possible? It really is not."
Mesereau then played excerpts from a video in which Jackson denies any sexual impropriety and said that he had “never been betrayed or deceived by children.”
The defense attorney conceded that Jackson had been lax with his money and had let the wrong people into his circle. But, he said, the singer was not the “monster” the prosecution were trying to depict and that he was not guilty of any crime.
Procecution Rebuttal
Afterwards, prosecutor Ron Zonen delivered a brief rebuttal. He sought to answer the question of Jackson’s motivation for the crime asking, "Why would Mr. Jackson do it? Because he could … This child was in love with him. This child would do anything he said."
Zonen reminded jurors of the past allegations made against Jackson saying that this was necessary in order to “see the total picture”. He claimed that Jackson was “in love” with his 1993 accuser and added that the current accuser is a “clone” of the boy in that case.
After both sides rested for the last time, Judge Rodney Melville ordered the eight women and four men on the jury to begin their deliberations. He gave them a 98-page book of instructions.
The Judge told Jackson that he could stay at Neverland during the proceedings but requested that the attorneys remain within 10 minutes of the courthouse in case the jurors had any questions.
These deliberations are the final stage of an ordeal that began 14 weeks ago. During this time the jury has heard testimony from over 130 witnesses.
A verdict is expected early next week.
A w informacjach na polsacie dzisiaj tj 04.06.2005 czyli sobote dopiero gadano o zamknieciu argumentow i ze oddano sprawe ławnikom
I wiecie jakie to byly rzetelne informacje .
Podano ze dzisiaj zaczely sie obrady ławnikow! I to dzisiaj!glupija Moze sie myle ale w Stanach w Santa Maria mamy godzine 6 rano dnia dzisiejszego czyli Sobote a o ile wiem obrady skonczyly sie wczoraj o godzinie tak gdzies 3 w poludnie To u nas byla 1 w nocy Chyba ze to mieli na mysli ale wiem ze Lawnicy maja przerwe do poniedzialku a wiadomosci na polsacie podaly to tak jakby obrady jeszcze trwaly?! 
podddaje sie niech ich ges kopnie z rzetelnoscia wiadomosci 
W ogole bije im brawo za refleks 
I wiecie jakie to byly rzetelne informacje .
Podano ze dzisiaj zaczely sie obrady ławnikow! I to dzisiaj!glupija Moze sie myle ale w Stanach w Santa Maria mamy godzine 6 rano dnia dzisiejszego czyli Sobote a o ile wiem obrady skonczyly sie wczoraj o godzinie tak gdzies 3 w poludnie To u nas byla 1 w nocy Chyba ze to mieli na mysli ale wiem ze Lawnicy maja przerwe do poniedzialku a wiadomosci na polsacie podaly to tak jakby obrady jeszcze trwaly?! podddaje sie niech ich ges kopnie z rzetelnoscia wiadomosci W ogole bije im brawo za refleks Kultura umożliwia rozkwit najpiękniejszych zdolności człowieka
I jeszcze to, co na maila przychodzi...Ech... Nie lubię czekać. Nawet jeśli chodzi odobre newsy, to niecierpliwa jestem. Więc w międzyczasie to wkleję...
CASE FINISHED - JURY START DELIBERATIONS
Verdict expected next week
Michael is flanked by his parents, brothers
and sisters yesterday as the jury starts its verdict
deliberations.
Attorneys finished their closing arguments
yesterday as the jury started its deliberations on
reaching a decision on whether or not Michael
Jackson should be convicted for the charges he
faces.
Michael arrived at the courthouse with a lot of his
family, including his parents, sisters Rebbie, La Toya
and Janet and brothers Tito, Jermaine and Randy.
Before the case went to the jury, lead Defence
attorney Thomas Mesereau finished his closing
argument he had started on Thursday. "If you look in
your hearts, do you believe Michael Jackson is evil in
that way? Is it even possible? It really is not,"
Mesereau told the jury. "If you look deep into your
heart, do you think it's remotely possible that he's
constructed that way?" he asked. "What they are
trying to do to Michael Jackson is so harmful, so
brutal, so devastating ... if you have any reasonable
doubt about the double-talk, the lies, it's over. You
must acquit Michael Jackson."
Mesereau finished his closing statement by showing
jurors 30 minutes of the rebuttal video to the Bashir
documentary Living with Michael Jackson. He
told jurors if they have any doubt whatsoever that
Michael is guilty, by law he must be acquitted.
Once the Defence had finished, Senior Deputy
District Attorney Ron Zonen started the Prosecution's
rebuttal. Janet and La Toya Jackson left the
courtroom at that moment, the reason later revealed
to be because they did not want to listen to their
brother being vilified. The Prosecution finished by
showing a seven-minute tape of Gavin Arvizo's first
interview with authorities concerning the allegations.
The jury spent two hours deliberating before breaking
up for the weekend. They are due back on Monday
to commence deliberations. Jurors will be in the
courthouse from 8:30 am - 2:30 pm Monday to
Friday until a verdict is reached. The Judge told
Michael that he can stay at his Neverland Valley
ranch until a verdict is reached, but attorneys must
never be more than 10 minutes away in case jurors
have any questions.
Michael's spokesperson Raymone Bain had a few
words for the media when Michael did not, "He's very
strong and he has a strong faith in God and the
justice system. He is not falling apart. He has been a
true soldier in all of this," she said.
CASE FINISHED - JURY START DELIBERATIONS
Verdict expected next week
Michael is flanked by his parents, brothers
and sisters yesterday as the jury starts its verdict
deliberations.
Attorneys finished their closing arguments
yesterday as the jury started its deliberations on
reaching a decision on whether or not Michael
Jackson should be convicted for the charges he
faces.
Michael arrived at the courthouse with a lot of his
family, including his parents, sisters Rebbie, La Toya
and Janet and brothers Tito, Jermaine and Randy.
Before the case went to the jury, lead Defence
attorney Thomas Mesereau finished his closing
argument he had started on Thursday. "If you look in
your hearts, do you believe Michael Jackson is evil in
that way? Is it even possible? It really is not,"
Mesereau told the jury. "If you look deep into your
heart, do you think it's remotely possible that he's
constructed that way?" he asked. "What they are
trying to do to Michael Jackson is so harmful, so
brutal, so devastating ... if you have any reasonable
doubt about the double-talk, the lies, it's over. You
must acquit Michael Jackson."
Mesereau finished his closing statement by showing
jurors 30 minutes of the rebuttal video to the Bashir
documentary Living with Michael Jackson. He
told jurors if they have any doubt whatsoever that
Michael is guilty, by law he must be acquitted.
Once the Defence had finished, Senior Deputy
District Attorney Ron Zonen started the Prosecution's
rebuttal. Janet and La Toya Jackson left the
courtroom at that moment, the reason later revealed
to be because they did not want to listen to their
brother being vilified. The Prosecution finished by
showing a seven-minute tape of Gavin Arvizo's first
interview with authorities concerning the allegations.
The jury spent two hours deliberating before breaking
up for the weekend. They are due back on Monday
to commence deliberations. Jurors will be in the
courthouse from 8:30 am - 2:30 pm Monday to
Friday until a verdict is reached. The Judge told
Michael that he can stay at his Neverland Valley
ranch until a verdict is reached, but attorneys must
never be more than 10 minutes away in case jurors
have any questions.
Michael's spokesperson Raymone Bain had a few
words for the media when Michael did not, "He's very
strong and he has a strong faith in God and the
justice system. He is not falling apart. He has been a
true soldier in all of this," she said.
Mazi pisze:Wczoraj byłem na 18 stych urodzinach mojej koleżanki na ktorych przed impreza znalem tylko ją i 3 ludzi jeszcze z mojego LO starego <stara ekipa> no i wiecie co byly takei dwie fajne dziewczyny ktorych jeszcze nei znalem nom ale zamierzylem sobie poznac jedna dziewczynka zabrala mnei an spacer gdzies daleko i znow spiepszylem o czym z nią miałem rozmawiac jak nie o MJu co chwile jakeis wiesci od Mjówek <dziękuje wam, pozdro dla kumatych>
heheh przynajmniej dziewczyna zostala tak wyedukowana sprawa Mja ze jest etraz najlepeiej oroetujaca sie dziewczyna NIE MJówka w Świnoujściu na temat sprawy MJa :] nom bosz Mazi <skazany na pasje> .
Tak pozatym to juz załatwiłem bumboxa co by an plazy z szapanem i pofkiem lezec i slcuhac MJa :] pieewszy etap świetowania ;]
no to czekamy ;) ....
pozdrawiam
Nie masz lepszych tematów na spacerze przy księżycu niż Michael? :)
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na CNN mówili także, że media będą poinformowane o odczytaniu wyroku na godzinę przed - czyli, że kamery będą na sali sądowej - w sprawie O j Simpsona też były podczas ogłaszania wyroku
na NY Daily widze smutny artykuł i zdjecie smutnego MJ
http://www.nydailynews.com/
na NY Daily widze smutny artykuł i zdjecie smutnego MJ
http://www.nydailynews.com/
Napiszę, co La_Licorne z sąsiedniego forum opisała, polepszyło mi to humor, nawet jak to nie jest pewne :)
Podobno na MJJForum napisano, iż przysięgli już w piątek chcieli zakończyć proces werdyktem, jednak zabrakło im na to czasu. Poprosili sędziego o przedłużenie go, lecz się na to nie zgodził, podając jakiś błahy powód. Jeżeli to prawda... to znaczy, że ławnicy wiedzą już jaki dadzą Michaelowi wyrok... w tym wypadku chyba oznacza: niewinny. W przypadku winy wiadomo, że zawsze trzeba byłoby się przecież zastanowić, czy dać mu miesiąc, dwa, czy dwadzieścia lat. A w przypadku takiej zgodności i takiej szybkiej próby zakończenia... Ktoś może to potwierdzić?
A to, że będą kamery pod koniec, to się można byłoby spodziewać. Szczerze powiedziawszy, tak chyba będzie lepiej. Nikt nic nie przekręci przynajmniej.
Na polepszenie humoru Gazeta Wyborcza
Pierwszy raz od wieków przyjęła tak neutralny ton, co to za dziwna taktyka? Przecież wiadomo, że to prokuratura od wieków dobrze wypada, a obrona jak zawsze niepewna i nie mająca dowodów... http://serwisy.gazeta.pl/swiat/1,34254,2746786.html
Podobno na MJJForum napisano, iż przysięgli już w piątek chcieli zakończyć proces werdyktem, jednak zabrakło im na to czasu. Poprosili sędziego o przedłużenie go, lecz się na to nie zgodził, podając jakiś błahy powód. Jeżeli to prawda... to znaczy, że ławnicy wiedzą już jaki dadzą Michaelowi wyrok... w tym wypadku chyba oznacza: niewinny. W przypadku winy wiadomo, że zawsze trzeba byłoby się przecież zastanowić, czy dać mu miesiąc, dwa, czy dwadzieścia lat. A w przypadku takiej zgodności i takiej szybkiej próby zakończenia... Ktoś może to potwierdzić?
A to, że będą kamery pod koniec, to się można byłoby spodziewać. Szczerze powiedziawszy, tak chyba będzie lepiej. Nikt nic nie przekręci przynajmniej.
Na polepszenie humoru Gazeta Wyborcza
Pierwszy raz od wieków przyjęła tak neutralny ton, co to za dziwna taktyka? Przecież wiadomo, że to prokuratura od wieków dobrze wypada, a obrona jak zawsze niepewna i nie mająca dowodów... http://serwisy.gazeta.pl/swiat/1,34254,2746786.html-
la_licorne
- Posty: 296
- Rejestracja: sob, 12 mar 2005, 14:04
- Skąd: nie powiem :)
em...Jest jak bylo...dalej nie maja ojęcia o czym piszą...Pank pisze:
Na polepszenie humoru Gazeta Wyborcza
Jeszcze jedno, to nie jury decyduje o karze, ale sędzia. Ewentualne rozwarzana dotyczą raczej przebiegu sprawy, wyłapywaniu nieścislości w zeznaniach, przedyskutowaniu co składa się na poszczegolne punkty oskarżenia... Co do wyłapywania nieścislości to Mez ułatwił przysięgłym sprawe, pokazujac kłamstwa rodzinki Avrizo podczas przemowy końcowej. Ja jestem dobrej myśli :D Co prawda MJ musi się niestety cały weekend męczyć i cierpieć, ale im dokładniej moimn zdaniem przysiegli przedysktutuja sprawe, tym bardziej prawdopodobne, że wydadzą prawidlowy wyrok... MJ zostanie uznany niewinnym napewno w ciągu przyszlego ytgodnia :) Ja w to wierze. Sam fakt, że jury chcialo wydać werdykt już w piatek dobitnie o tym świadczy.
Osobiście jestem przeciwko kamerom na sali sądowej i na szczęście ta informacja z kamerami jest nie prawdziwa. Według MJJSource odczytywanie wyroku będzie tylko poprzez przekaz audio!Speechless pisze:na CNN mówili także, że media będą poinformowane o odczytaniu wyroku na godzinę przed - czyli, że kamery będą na sali sądowej - w sprawie O j Simpsona też były podczas ogłaszania wyroku
http://mjjsource.com/main/index.php?opt ... &Itemid=32
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